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Bi-polar Bishop
re: Walter talking to himself in his notes in two voices (schizo?). Does this harken back to The Equation where he repeatedly saw himself, and seemed intimidated by his visiting self? –DocH– my edits 13:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- - It does! At the time, I had taken that to be event-driven. Reincarceration. If bi-polar is a better term, go for it.--Jim 14:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- - This does seem to be event driven, by things particularly close to Walter's past. His return to St. Claire's and his belief that the monster was his own creation were both extremely stressful for him, which may be triggering these episodes. Also, there seems to be a duality to Walter, as we've heard him use the term "Two things occur to me" multiple times throughout the series, including in this episode while in the sewer waiting for the monster. The second thing has also appeared so far to be either something completely random, or a lie to cover something up he doesn't want known.--Evil Joe 15:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- - Actually, this would allude more to having a multiple personality disorder, not bipolar. The two are often confused. And considering Walter's situation (I think there's a reason that Walter Bishop and William Bell have the same initials), it's not an impossibility. Xinpheld 13:47, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- - Unlikely, but a possibility, it is possible that our Walter and the other side's Walter had tried merging minds. Which would result in one seeing the other when, in reality, he is not there (akin to Olivia seeing John Scott in the first season, when he was not there). --Aswvwl21 00:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
ANARCHY
Animal Rights ANARCHISTS! I know the script referred to them as 'activists', but they are, by definition ANARCHISTS in their actions - when they break a dozen laws in ten minutes - break/enter, deface/vandalize, destroy priv property, release animals to the wild, etc.... Activists organize phone campaigns, fund raisers and peaceful (lawful) demostration. These ANARCHISTS give ACTIVISTS a bad name when they glomb onto to the noble efforts of activism. –DocH– my edits 19:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- - Concur Strongly.--Jim 00:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
- - The problem is that 'anarchism' is political theory that opposes all forms of government, anarchists are adherents to this doctrine. If anything these activists would want government intervention to protect animals. If you are really that uncomfortable with the use of 'activists', may I suggest 'extremists' or 'vigilantes' more appropriately describe their actions and outlook --Wwahl 04:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- - Anarchy: confusion, chaos, disorder, lawlessness. The lab is legal. The criminals trashing the lab, and endangering the lives of the animals therein, are performing acts of anarchy. Activists would organize a peaceful demonstration, phone campaign, petition signing, etc.... –DocH– my edits 05:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- - The issue is the baggage associated with the term 'anarchist'. I understand anarchists as people with a political adherence to the principles of anarchism. They believe that society should be organized as small collectives in which everyone has an equal say. The collectives should then work with each other. There should be no overriding government or authority. I don't happen to agree with this but I can appreciate the point of view. To support their political objectives some anarchists have been known to attack the machinery of the state (i.e. blow up things); hence the characterization of anyone performing such attacks as anarchists (although they may be communist, fascist, ....). The use of the term 'anarchist' in this way, implies a certain political point of view (i.e. one person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorists). These four people are young and doing dumb things, they're not someone with a deeper political agenda. Hence, I would support calling them 'extremists' which is a broader term and doesn't carry the same political baggage. --Wwahl11 15:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
The Hybrid
Astrid received a list from Olivia, over the phone, of the animal genes used to make the hybrid. Gila Monster, Wasp and Bat. Walter and Peter started talking about the bats qualities as Astrid tried to relay the last animal. The three listed are small. The hybrid is large. Looking at the image of the beast... does anyone have ANY idea what the final ingredient is? –DocH– my edits 03:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- - Considering the idea that the hybrid might be a griffin -- which they did not say -- I think something feline, maybe the delightful house cat (Felis catus). (The Queen of the Entire Universe meowed at me just now, which I think means she and her kin are denying all responsibility.) The head, including the ears of the dead one look felinish. If they could plus up the size of the bat -- for the wings -- they could plus up everything else. In passing, notice the tail; it has cups similar to an octopus.--Jim 17:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- - Some previews for the episode listed it as having "the body of a lion, claws of an eagle, fangs of a viper, skin of a rhinocerous, and tail of a serpent." Looking at the picture, it does appear to have a lion-shaped body and a viper's fangs, and the tail does have a rattlesnake's rattle on the end. The octopus cups on the tail and the fact that bat, wasp, and gila monster dna were also used makes me wonder more just how many creatures went into making the hybrid.--Evil Joe 18:02, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- = Yeah, maybe the first para should have read "...relay the rest of the animals."--Jim 18:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- - I see the cat in legs - upper, lower and paws. Also cat head. But the lower legs are relative short and the upper legs are massive (this kitty works out) - those traits make me think short stock and powerful (badger?, wolverine?), I had not noticed the suckers on the tail. I think the segmented tail and rattle is mostly waspish. Still, I hope they explain this in the future. –DocH– my edits
- - Noted. A, B, C and D. Sadly, I don't see much chance of seeing more about the critter in the near future. Swift Labs has probably been cleaned out and there are more crises to be met.--Jim 21:15, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Walter's Lab Notes
I could be wrong about this, since I haven't used a typewriter in around 20 years, but shouldn't the uppercase Y in Walter's notes be above the rest of the text, like the lowercase Y is? If the letters are on the same typebar, would the shift key cause the Y to correct itself? I haven't been able to find any pictures, but I can't imagine the typewriter would be pre-shift key. --Evil Joe 23:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- - Man... talk about 'analytic mind', I wish I had one. Super point. I think the last time I wrestled with a manual typewriter was 12 years ago... at my granny's house. My guess is that the "type set" has not slid on the arm... leading to both elevated lower y AND upper case Y. My guess is that there is some binding (dust/gunk) in the 2 or 3 elbows in the arm that aggrevate the lower case 'y', but the pressure is released in the elbows when you depress the shift key to get to the upper case 'Y', and it strokes normally, without a bind. –DocH– my edits
- - About the offset letter y-- something tickles the back of my brain about it, in that I vaguely recall another show, a detective-style show or maybe a movie - where an offset y on some anonymous notes from a killer or kidnapper or somesuch was used to finger the person by finding their misaligned typewriter. Considering Whedon's penchant for putting homages shows and movies of the past into Fringe (the Soilent Green-style waiting room in Massive Dynamic is a great example), it's not a completely out there possibility that it alludes to something. Any thoughts? Xinpheld 13:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Creature's Offspring
With so many offspring you think one or a few of them might of have escaped somewhere. Maybe that explains that Rattlesnake-like noise (same as the creature's) that was heard when Olivia went to bed at the last scene. --GreenRabbit 17:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Corrections I'd like to see on the page
Could someone unlock this page for me as I have a number of additions / corrections to make. TIA --Wwahl11 23:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
