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Comic Scans

All of the scans are at "the other place" and since i uploaded them there, have at them, no love lost. Just if you see a n00b uploading from here to there, I'll take care of them. I just became an admin and have already scolded someone for taking the pilot transcript from here. All's fair in love and wiki. Consider me a Double agent a la "Alias". I'd put the fringe pedia logo and upload them here myself but that's your job, you get paid for that. Cheers.--My Name Is Tom 09:50, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

- Not interested, thanks. I've had the digital version here at work for half a year. We can't use them. DC Comics said it was not FAIR USE to post images of all of their Fringe comics... since they are trying to sell them and make money. –DocH my edits

Observers

Hey, you changed one sentence in the article about the observers. I wrote, that they like raw flesh. The Observer wanted a roastbeef sandwich "as RAW as possible" (The arrival) and the child in the tunnel survived by eating rats (Inner Child) and of course he couldnt cook them. So there are some facts that say, that observers prefer/are used to raw flesh. And they also like hot spicery. May I change it again? --Zetsu42 10:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

- Don't change it. I changed it because it was overtly inaccurate and based on false logic. You assigned a "characterisitic" to all of the Observers based on one statement by a single Observer (something we don't do at FPedia). The Child has not been confirmed as an "Observer" (yet), no one on the science team has even suggested it as a possibility. AND BTW - We all eat raw flesh by eating rats when confronted with a life-or-death survival situation. BY DEFINITION - roast beef is cooked, not raw (hence the term ROAST). Saying you want roast beef "as RAW as possible" means you want that COOKED beef you just ordered to be very, very, very RARE. not raw. You twisted the statement and took it literally, and not in CONTEXT. I even cross-checked other dining scenes. Nothing. They spent a lot of time in an Indian restaurant in August. Nothing raw or fleshy was served there. They do like the hot spice... but they also like the very sweet Slusho drinks too. You also made your comment in a very detailed part of the article. At best, your statement would be 'trivia', even if it were correct. FPedia is an archive of fact, not guesses. -- –DocH my edits 18:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Death Count

I think Rorschach94's edit appears to be valid. Or am I missing something? Is August not a confirmed death in the August? There is also no definite indication in Northwest Passage that Krista and Gwynn's brain matter were taken out by Newton. -- Xerophytes Talk | Contribs 12:27, 25 September 2010 (MST)

- You appear to be missing something. August is not confirmed dead in 208. He MAY have died, but we did not see CONCLUSIVELY that he died. So his status is listed as UNKNOWN on his character page AND on the group character page. Rorschack cant just waltz in as a new user and change the death count page without consensus, ignore established character pages and start an edit war. The Death Count page does not indicate Newton took brain matter from the two female victims. -- –DocH my edits 13:42, 25 September 2010 (MST)

Kent Station

In the episode "The Box", when they are underground if you look at the vertical girders, there are signs that say "Kent Street". Also, the entrance that Walter points to is the portal to the stairwell to the underground station. Not sure if this is a "continuity" error, but it would be interesting to point out that there is no underground Kent Street Station in Boston. XSive1 07:45, 1 October 2010 (MST)

- Sci-Fi. The operative word here is FI for fiction. They can put a subway stop every 1/4 mile under Boston... it is not a continuity concern because they haven't contradicted themselves from previously presented material. - –DocH my edits 14:09, 1 October 2010 (MST)

Deleted Scenes

Just wondering if these are considered as canon... and if it will be useful to put up these deleted scenes in their respective episode pages? -- Xerophytes Talk | Contribs 23:59, 28 October 2010 (MST)

- Those scenes fall into non-canon. They are considered in Fringepedia:Canon as "film out-takes" - the producers deliberately elected not to air those shots, intentionally omitting them from the story they wanted us to see. - –DocH my edits 11:20, 29 October 2010 (MST)

Server Connection Problem?

For the past few days I'm having a problem of accessing the site. Is this a known issue? Or it is just me? -- Xerophytes Talk | Contribs 10:06, 07 November 2010 (MST)

- YES IT IS A KNOWN ISSUE. And something that is out of our hands. I checked - and the GoDaddy Server in Phoenix AZ (our server) is under a big restructure effort. It is only supposed to last a week. (Monday to Monday) The two things I have seen the most is TIMEOUT after only ONE minute of editing - it is normally about 15 minutes... so "COPY ALL" before submitting. The second is the thumbnail generation - there should be a "bin/convert" folder that generates/catches your images. Since they are juggling databases, that support folder disappears on occassion. It should be up to speed soon - it bugs me too. - –DocH my edits 17:13, 7 November 2010 (MST)

Next Episode Clue Contributions

Hi. Not that i'm so proud of seeing my episode 209 clue proposition selected, nor do i need official praise, but i would have liked it if you had actually used the page i made (File:FringeClue209). I'm three days old on this site but i guessed it was because you're keeping a coherence between files' titles, however the fact that you made a whole new page kinda made me feel like my contribution wasn't appreciated... besides, you lost my caption "August brings back Chinese food to the girl he abducteed, wrapped in a paper bag with a dragon ("snake")'s head on it." In the case of that clue it may seem obvious, but i've seen other clue pages where the lack of caption actually makes it impossible to understand why such image had been chosen... that being said, that website is wonderful to explore, and you obviously work a lot for it, so thanks! --Sebou 13:48, 18 December 2010 (MST)

- It is a collaborative effort here, and as the Administrator I can tell your contribution was perfect - the idea anyway. As for the image - completely unuseable in every way. 1,049 × 590 pixels, needed to be 450 x 300 pixels. File size: 116 KB needed to be about 70 KB or less. The image was too dark, too blurry, needed resaturation and a gamma correction. And it had a logo/watermark in the corner. I corrected all of those shortcomings in about 90 seconds. Anybody can grab a screencapture and upload it... but it has to be visible and understandable to the reader (our customer). I check all of this stuff on five different monitor styles (movie, photo, gaming, text and median custom) so everyone can see the full and thumbnailed versions clearly. I am betting you did none of that. Anywho... forget about any "pride of ownership" here... the "product" is what counts at Fringepedia... not the producer. - –DocH my edits 14:27, 18 December 2010 (MST)

Greetings

Greetings DocH. I'm looking to get a bit involved here. I'm an admin on the English Wikipedia, so I can probably help a bit. Let me know if there is any particular place I should get started. Regards, Jujutacular talk 15:59, 19 January 2011 (MST)

- In that case, when we start getting new episodes, I expect some content from you. You can start by converting this messy code above (your sig) into an autosig. And we are not wikipedia or wikia. We run our own basic MW 16 with just a few basic hooks and parsers, etc... no fancy programming here. I pref and design for the Monobook crowd and encourage our registered users to Pref Monobook. The Vector css is the pet project of the guy that pays GoDaddy. If you want to play with your own private vector.css I wouldn't mind seeing some of your potential tweaks. Other than that - we are about the reader... this is not a programming playground. We try to generate Very Accurate Content immediately following a new episode. That is pretty much our mission statement. Cheers - –DocH my edits 16:21, 19 January 2011 (MST)
- Fixed the sig. I probably won't get into any of the coding side, just concentrate on helping get the content out. Thanks for the tips. Regards, User:Jujutacular/sig 16:37, 19 January 2011 (MST)
- Nope, still broken. All you did was drop a sig template in. I built an autosig page for you that looks at the sig page you created. Now you can go to your Pref page - User Profile - Signature - and drop this text - {{SUBST:User:Jujutacular/autosig}} - in the open block and check the tick mark (for wikitext) below it. That will let you use the 3, 4 or 5 ~'s, or the speed button above the edit box. (This is all on our help page.) Let me know if you want the sig locked-up in admin level protection. - –DocH my edits
- Thanks, should be working now. User:Jujutacular/sig 17:36, 19 January 2011 (MST)

Next Episode clues

Just watched "Concentrate..." again and think the Next Episode clue was the blue VW Beetle going by where Walter mangles the "Slug Bug" game calling it Punch Buggy. Refers to the beetle like creatures seen in the teasers for "Immortality". What do you think? Also I've noticed several episodes missing the clues on the associated page. will try to find season 2's clues. Don't know how to update the page or putr them on the Episode page. Hope you can get this done. JBipes 14:28, 13 February 2011 (MST)

- First, sign your name on talk and theory pages. Second, your Punch Buggy guess MAY be correct, but there is no way of knowing until this episode airs. So all you have is a SWAG. Third, we only put NEC's on the page when we are reasonably certain they are correct... no SWAG's. That is why there are a few missing NEC's - we weren't reasonbly certain. This is an archive (facts) not a blog or a message board. If it is not true or it didn't happen, we don't put it on the page. No guessing or extrapolation. Fourth, it was Punch Buggy where I grew-up and we weren't allowed to play because my big sister had boney knuckles that delivered nasty bruises. Fifth, keep looking for the NEC's - if you find one that works, I'll get it loaded as needed. The VW Bug thing may not work. Too generic (said Bug=show about Bugs?). They are usually very specific (and tricky) on how they present it. Go back and study the clues that have been loaded... get a feel for them. (public places, normally words-symbols-signage, never the spoken word, rarely near a team member, etc...) - –DocH my edits 17:19, 11 February 2011 (MST)

- What do you think about my SWAG now? VW Beetle and the Skelter Beetles. JBipes 14:31, 13 February 2011 (MST)

- Could be a winner. The fact you had guessed without even having seen the show confirms my assertion of SWAG. One thing we don't do here is SPOILERS. So, if you are gaining your "insight" from spoiler sources (like the teasers) and entering them here before the show, then you are treading on dangerous grounds. So - hold off the "spoilerish" from now on. plz. - –DocH my edits 18:27, 13 February 2011 (MST). PS: You seem not to know how to sign your name either. There is a string of 11 buttons above the edit box. The tenth (second from right, looks like a signature) is used to drop a sig/timestamp wherever the cursor is in the edit box. or enter this... ~~~~ ... for the same effect. - –DocH my edits
- Not all of the NEC's require deep thought and reflection. i.e. 6B's seemed pretty straightforward (license plate "APT6B"). --JBipes 21:42, 28 February 2011 (MST)
- The point is what it speaks to. 6B spoke to the "Zero Event" in our universe. The start of the fabric between universes unraveling over here. The Bug thing was more of a sight gag, but telling. It is always visual... but a duck decoy seems beneath it all when just the one shifter used a dummy to decoy Peter during his wave of assassinations. Seems like the clue to 'Reciprocity' should have something to do with the reciprocal actions taken by Peter, or the activation of The Weapon, or something math-oriented (reciprocals), or the New Secret Walter & Peter share. You do know that NEC's are at the bottom of the priorities here. They are in the trivia (aka non-important) section. The synopsis (aka non-trivia, aka Important) is the important stuff. Every second I spend quibbling about trivia (non-important) is a second I spend away from important (ep, character, topic, mystery). You (specifically) have given me the idea that we need to cut the NECs from the wiki completely. I can easily get the season 2 NEC's with 1 or 2 emails to Santa Monica. I can't get the Season 3 NECs until they are pretty much done selling the DVD's a year from now. They (Bad Robot) want us to figure out the NEC's in the meantime. It sells DVD's and it feeds fan involvement. If your focus is the trivia and not the overall storyarc, then fine. But we really need content editors of the important stuff, not the trivial. –DocH my edits 22:44, 28 February 2011 (MST) (hit a main brace and think big picture)

Shapeshifted

Odd. Apparently, I was ParalysedBeaver in my two edits. So I log off and log in again and it looks okay now. Any thoughts? -- Xerophytes Talk | Contribs 20:03, 25 March 2011 (MST)

- Has anyone shot you in the forehead lately? Is the memory disk from your lower back missing? When you dream - do you see electric sheep? The problem is that you two overlapped. The other user dropped in the A and the T at nearly the same time as you did. The inputs were identical, so no disparity is reported between editors and no red flag is raised. Maybe you are phasing between universes... are there dirigible airships in 'your' night sky? [;^) –DocH my edits 20:12, 25 March 2011 (MST)

Edits

Hello. While I truly appreciate your hard work and dedication to this wiki, I'm afraid new users like myself might be slightly taken aback by your choice of words. What I'm trying to do is not "fix" what's "broken". I've been editing many wikis, and when I saw something that is different I simply thought it was a mistake. Simply stating why it is not the same here is fine, but taking the offensive approach isn't necessary. I thought wikias are supposed to be a collaborative experience, and not a one-man job. Anyways, I'll leave it up to you. This site is in good condition and has helped me a lot in my Fringe watch, and I'm sure you had a big part in it. Just my own two cents. -- DanKempner 17:23, 6 June 2011 (MST)

- Due diligence? Attention to detail?. Did you ask yourself why might it be "Brandon" Fayette and not "Brandon Fayette"? Did you ask yourself "Hey self, maybe somebody has it that way on purpose, what could their reasons be?" Troubleshoot/brainstorm a bit first. As the Administrator here, I have to do that on every edit by every contributor. This is an indepedent wiki - one owner, no affiliations other than our Fringetelevision.com blog sister-sites. FPedia evolved using its' own standards, many based on the 'lessons-learned' at other wikis. The finished product (a quality read) is the main objective. This wiki is a place of business, not a playground for programmers. We are not Wikia or Wikipedia and we really try to avoid their silliness (hand-holding, tree-hugging, Kumbaya-singing). Our style manual has a bunch of good pointers. I apologize if I come off a little curt at times... time management is an issue when I have to chase down edits that seem (to me) counter-productive. And yes, I get it that counter-productivity was never your intent. Collaborative is always the goal... but things like "Why is this page protected?" raises suspicion when that episode (Olivia/Lab/Revolver) aired 14 months ago. Collaborative ended 7 months ago, after the DVD had been out for a few months and folks had the opportunity to "top-off" the page content after analyzing their DVDs. We've had the problem before... a page is left open too long and someone tries to slip under the radar and make the content fit their own theory or misguided fact... totally avoiding the "collaborative" effort that everyone else took part in after the show aired. The History flips and Talk pages are also very helpful in learning the "why" of certain actions. Here is a ton of continuity. This is less so. Ignore snarky, do good work and Bottomline = Quality Product To The Customer/Reader. -- –DocH my edits 18:59, 6 June 2011 (MST) PS. You get alot more street-cred when you start writing some serious original content rather than running around tweaking style to fit your eye. There are lots of Season 3 episode pages that need serious grammar/content makeovers. Thick skin, no emotion, chop-chop. Unum Cum Virtute Multorum. [;^) -- –DocH my edits
- I agree! I am just used to the wikia style of editing (like Lostpedia), where the Pilot article is still unprotected and information is still added to it. I can see this isn't the case here, and I am not here to lead a revolution. If I have nothing to add, I won't make up stuff just so my contribution log fills. Like I said before, your contributions here have helped me when I started watching Fringe a month ago and caught up on all three seasons in two and a half weeks. Bottom line is: keep up the great work, and if there's anything I can help with, I'd be glad to. DanKempner 19:24, 6 June 2011 (MST)
- Sweet. That's what I like to hear. I thought I was giving you a pep-talk and you wound-up motivating me. If something is wrong (suspected or genuinely wrong) with "locked" content - point it out... there is no 'pride of ownership' here - just the mission of getting the straight poop onto the page. One month for all of Fringe? Wow. You really do bring a "fresh eye". Keep it coming, fresh blood is vital. –DocH my edits

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